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- From: rogoff@sccm.Stanford.EDU (Brian Rogoff)
- Newsgroups: comp.lang.java,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.smalltalk
- Subject: Re: Will Java kill C++?
- Date: 2 Apr 96 13:08:20
- Organization: /u/rogoff/.organization
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- In-reply-to: curt_springer@hms.med.harvard.edu's message of 2 Apr 1996 16:48:30 GMT
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- In article <4jrlou$l8a@netope.harvard.edu> curt_springer@hms.med.harvard.edu (Curt Springer) writes:
- In article <4jr7gf$dc6@nyheter.chalmers.se>, ei39594@ios.chalmers.se says...
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- [...]
-
- >BTW, I have using C/C++ the past 5-6 years. NOTHING will replace a
- >language like this since you can do EVERYTHING in C (e.i. VERY low level
- >stuff).
- [...]
- >Arash
-
- Yeah, EVERYTHING, like setting pointers beyond the ends of arrays.
-
- Indeed...
-
- Seriously, what low-level stuff (don't talk about multiple inheritance) is in
- c/c++ and not in Java that _you_ _need_ (not _want_) to do, in real life?
- How many people are there in the same situation? What percentage of the
- population are you?
-
- How about the ability to create new value types? Not necessarily low-level, as
- Ada 95, Eiffel, and Sather allow this, yet prevent the pointer madness of C and
- C++ (please, there is no language "C/C++").
-
- Who needs this? Anyone who needs fast, compact arrays of user defined elements.
- This means anyone who needs to write numerical methods, signal processing, and
- certain fast graphics algorithms in the language. What percentage of the population
- are we? Insignificantly small. What percentage of the "programing population"
- are we? We'll find out, as more people try to use Java in general applications.
-
- We are already seeing the complaints on this newsgroup :-)
-
- --Curt
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